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AuraofMana · Feb 16, 2008, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Titles are meaningless. Armour isn't. You need to get maximum level armour (well, it is possible, I suppose, to sit in the back of a group doing nothing with minimum al armour). There simply is no comparison.

Some titles affect some of the skills I want to use.

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By that token, every game offers nothing but ceaseless grind.

Every game offers grind, it's just that some games offer grinds that are enjoyable, aka raising your integer. Most people find that fun, despite how silly it may sound. Hell, I find raising levels more enjoyable than watching my title track go up.

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None of them are forced, and a good player realises they mean nothing, hence they don't count.

So are rarer skin items and expensive armors in GW. Hell, come to think of it, there is nothing to do in this game. Content issue problem more?

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The PvP in GW is far superior to PvP of other MMOs, even with it's problems.

I've seen games that are centered around PvP, and I can tell you GW's PvP blows. it is so repetitive with so little maps. The best PvP concept was AB in my opinion, but some people would argue that AB isn't true PvP.

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It offers PvP, if you don't like PvP, this game is not for you, accept it.

Yeah I realized that now, which is a bit too late. I was hoping GW would get better and better, except it got worse and worse. Should have just bought WOW from day one >_>.

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The reason this game has problems is because A-net are listening to people who just want a free WoW clone, and not the PvPers that play this game for why it was orginally intended to be.

I actually liked GW when it was in the beginning with skill > time. The PvP was actually FUN back then, then stuff like SF happened.

Shuuda · Feb 16, 2008, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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Originally Posted by AuraofMana

I actually liked GW when it was in the beginning with skill > time. The PvP was actually FUN back then, then stuff like SF happened.

It still is Skill > Time for the most part, you're just fooled into thinking ya need to waste time.

SF = Searring Flames, if so then it was hardly the worst gimmick that existed, in the so called "Good old days" you have even worse crap,

- Spiritway
- IWAY
- Ranger Spike

Pyro maniac · Feb 16, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

It still is Skill > Time for the most part, you're just fooled into thinking ya need to waste time.

SF = Searring Flames, if so then it was hardly the worst gimmick that existed, in the so called "Good old days" you have even worse crap,

- Spiritway
- IWAY
- Ranger Spike

you're right on all your posts. but just stop it, you're trying to convince PvE'ers ...

enter_the_zone · Feb 16, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Most leet items are easy to get these days anyway. And Personally I like it, I can play how I want without some PvE scrub thinking he's better than me for wastin' time on things that ya don't need.

None of them are forced, and a good player realises they mean nothing, hence they don't count.

It offers PvP, if you don't like PvP, this game is not for you, accept it.

The PvP in GW is far superior to PvP of other MMOs, even with it's problems. Like I said, PvP is not for you, go play a different game, please don't whine at people who actually enjoy the best made half of this game.

The reason this game has problems is because A-net are listening to people who just want a free WoW clone, and not the PvPers that play this game for why it was orginally intended to be.

roflmao, wow, arrogant much? PvP is not the be all and end all of GW as a game. If it was, why did Anet bother releasing additional PVE campaigns and not just skills releases?

Moreover, if PvP is so important, why is Anet moving to bind PvP closer to PVE in GW2?

You are truly such a "PvP Player" cliche.....which reminds me why I don't bother with PvP in this game anymore. As if /rank actually means anything about your ability.

Skill is long since secondary to running gimmicked builds, which is why Anet is constantly changing skills to try to shift the meta.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 16, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

Shuuda, Rhanoct and Alex. Don't argue in Riverside about skill updates.
It's riverside >.<

I'm not arguing.
I'm here for the lulz. Given the general ignorance of Riverside, there's a lot of them.

Killed u man · Feb 16, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

It still is Skill > Time for the most part, you're just fooled into thinking ya need to waste time.

SF = Searring Flames, if so then it was hardly the worst gimmick that existed, in the so called "Good old days" you have even worse crap,

- Spiritway
- IWAY
- Ranger Spike

But nontheless:

-> It was fun
-> It was worth playing (Good team = guarantee HoH)
-> Not a 50% Gank Rate in HoH back then
-> You named 3 out of the 20+ possible builds. They all were equally "overpowered", thus making them a "balanced' class of their own AND they were very versatile (I mean bspike =/= IWAY) so everyone could play their favorite class/build in one of these "overpowered" gimmicks...

Now it's pretty much: Play Rspike, Thumper N/Rt or gtfo

Avarre · Feb 16, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

Moreover, if PvP is so important, why is Anet moving to bind PvP closer to PVE in GW2?

They realized how much money they can make by selling games to the mass majority of people. Why bother being inventive when everyone's seen that works?

However, if you're only in GW for the PvE, there are some much better PvE games out there. That's not even a 'go away' comment, if I only PvE'ed , I'd play something that was specifically designed for PvE, that would have more depth and be more interesting.

schaapie · Feb 16, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

I REALLY hope flame djins will get reverted to 33%. Nerving SO many ele farms is no good. Only thing i had left was a little bit farming but now

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Numa Pompilius · Feb 16, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by Eli Rela

Never farmed raptors in my life... my main is necro btw

Then what the hell do you bitch about a minor nerf to a lesser known elementalist farm build for?

Do you know why they're bitching? Because now they can't outrun the raptors, so they can't gather up all the raptors in the area and kill them all at once. They have to kill each group individually, which takes longer. That's how stupid this bitching is.

Farmers. God love'em, no one else does.

isamu kurosawa · Feb 16, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Then what the hell do you bitch about a minor nerf to a lesser known elementalist farm build for?

Do you know why they're bitching? Because now they can't outrun the raptors, so they can't gather up all the raptors in the area and kill them all at once. They have to kill each group individually, which takes longer. That's how stupid this bitching is.

Farmers. God love'em, no one else does.

Yet its still possible to outrun them on a warrior with a 25%speed buff. Strange.

Fidelty · Feb 16, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

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Originally Posted by schaapie

I REALLY hope flame djins will get reverted to 33%. Nerving SO many ele farms is no good. Only thing i had left was a little bit farming but now

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I totally agree with you schaapie. The only thing I had left was farming, but now I have totally no clue what to do ...

shadows of hob · Feb 16, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Why are so many people complaining about the nerf to FDH in the raptor farming build?

There is a safer and quicker build out there that doesn't kill them all at the same time, more drops, and people don't even consider bringing FDH in that build.

Good thing they reverted Pleak, but why DPS......

Stormlord Alex · Feb 16, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by Fidelty

I totally agree with you schaapie. The only thing I had left was farming, but now I have totally no clue what to do ...

If all you had left was grinding the same mobs over and over, relying on a single skill...

Maybe you should find a new game?

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Originally Posted by shadows of hob

Good thing they reverted Pleak, but why DPS......

I'll sum up what it said in the post I linked to near the start of the thread - essentially, the strength of hard resses - DPSig can bring a guy up, full energy and health with a negligible drawback - was making deaths, as a whole, a less important and game-making occurrence; alongside devaluing the effort required to win morale boosts (and therefore recharge Res Sigs).

With a weaker DPSig, deaths might mean something.

Shuuda · Feb 16, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by shadows of hob

Good thing they reverted Pleak, but why DPS......

Because DPS was overpowered in GvG, I think it's used on Mesmers a lot due to Fast Cast on Signets.

shadows of hob · Feb 16, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

I know that it was overpowered in some situations, but there are a lot of skills that might be overpowered and I just liked DPS the way it was.

Crom The Pale · Feb 16, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Again another update that doesnt really hurt PvE at all, great work Anet.

To those few that are upset at a farming nerf...well there are so many other ways to make money you just have to learn some new tricks.

fgarvin · Feb 16, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact they were long lasting 33% running that could be kept up constantly without any major drawback, not balatently overpowered in anyway at all.

Gee thanks...your sarcasm actually burned a hole in my monitor.

But I have to agree...they were a little overpowered.

N8mare · Feb 16, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

there are so many other ways to make money you just have to learn some new tricks.

the best way to get money now is to buy them from chinese websites, because AN made farming ridiculous!

Abysall Demon · Feb 16, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Yay, P-Leak is back

Kiragi Yagami · Feb 16, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by N8mare

the best way to get money now is to buy them from chinese websites, because AN made farming ridiculous!

just because they changed a few skills to balance the game a bit? QQ moar about ANET plz?

this game isnt about farming. and if you think so, please uninstall Guild Wars right now.